Our next guest is Emmy and Academy Award winner Kathy Bates, who is starring in the new CBS legal drama series Matlock, which is inspired by the original hit TV show of the same name. Bates plays a lawyer named Madeline Maddie Matlock, and her character decides to rejoin the workforce, using her age and her wit to kind of sneak her way into her prestigious law firm and a job there. And the clip you're about to see from Thursday's new episode, she tries to figure out the lay of the land there by questioning one of her new colleagues. I received an e-mail address from Jacobson More. And I assume that gives me no expectations of privacy, correct? And if I wanted to call up an old case file, This is your first official day. Why are you asking? What file could you possibly need? This is Belvin. I woke up at 75 years old without a husband or money and a 12 year old kid to raise. I need this job more than you can possibly imagine. So I'm just trying to think ahead because at my age, they're not looking for reasons to hire you. They're looking for reasons to fire you. Kathy Grace joins us now. So good in this ageism is a big is a big theme in this show and you you use it to your advantage. I want to get into that in a second. But first, taking this role when you first heard they were doing this sort of reimagining, your thoughts were maybe not what changed your mind. Well, I, it was the twist at the end. Actually, I, when I was reading it, they gave it to me, the script on a Friday afternoon and said you have to decide by Monday. And at first I thought this is just going to be another episodic. But the twist at the end where Maddie goes around the corner and gets into a chauffeur driven car and drives up into Westchester and you realize that she's there undercover to actually get justice for her daughter who died of opioids. But the show is about so much more than that, though. There's wonderful actors in the show, and it's actually a lot of fun. And the ageism is real. Go ahead. The ageism is really, really real. And I love reading something the other day that you said at 76, this is one of the best things you've ever done and one of the most wonderful things that has happened to you #1 on the call sheet, drop the microphone. Did you think at this stage, were you looking for this? Did you think at this stage this could happen to you? Never and in fact, the whole season has been number one on the call sheet. They've taken great care of me. I I mean, it's you know, big dressing room now seeing these huge billboards. We've got one coming up in Times Square and I'm like, with your feet on it really happening. But were you still interested in acting Kathy, or were you thinking, OK, maybe I'm winding down? Well, I, you know, I was thinking about maybe going into semi retirement and then all of a sudden I got this script and I thought, oh, wow, I've got to do it. And Jenny Ehrman did James the virgin and it was just fantastic. But I also to to to answer your point about ageism, that was also a big deal for me about being invisible. There's so many women my age who really do feel invisible. And these years are difficult to to hold that despair at at Bay to get through every day. And I think if I wasn't doing this show, I might feel the same way. But it's all changed. Oliver night. I sort of feel like, I don't know, as Cinderella, it's it's so nice. I can bring everything I've learned for the last 50 years into bear to play these really two different characters. You mentioned the word invisible and in the pilot episode, your character says there's this funny thing that happens when women age. You become damn near invisible. You struggle with aging and how you are perceived it. I'm I'm kind of blown away because you are spoken about by your peers in such high regard and we look at you as one of the legends in this industry. But how do you see yourself working actor, working actor, just a working actor, character player. I mean, I've, I've just, it's always about the work for me, Nate, it's about the work and the accolades are wonderful. And all of this is really exciting. And I remember after we got 13 million viewers for our sneak peek, we had to go back to work that day. And Kat Coiro, who is our one of our great directors said, OK, we have to go back to work now because it's the work that gets us there and it's the work that we all love to do. Yeah, but we'd all kill for 13 million viewers. We would all kill for 13. We're going to come in a shy under that this morning. But maybe not if I'm married. That's right. Thank you. But but, but in addition to the work that you do, you also look so good. And you've talked about losing 100 lbs. You said it took you a while to do it. So how do you feel about yourself? How did you do it and how do you feel about yourself? I just feel like a different woman. I really do. I look in the mirror and I go, Oh my gosh. Or I went into my costume fittings and I'm wearing a size 10. And it's just so different from being a 3X and able to walk and move and and pick things off the rack. It's such a different experience, but also health wise, you know, with the show goes hard and takes a lot of stamina and I feel up to it every day. The Cohens. You know how these two things coincided in my life and being really healthy and then suddenly get been given this gift. It's just every day feels like a miracle. Yes, far cry from where you scared everyone in misery. I still that's Oh my gosh, that's still one of my favorite ankles with the sledgehammer. It's still one of my favorite characters for you. Do you have a favorite character of your body of work? Let's take Maddie out of. Oh, well, OK. Robably. Dolores Claiborne. It was a film that didn't get a lot of attention when it came out. And it should have and and directed by Taylor Hackford. And I think it was another situation where I was playing really two different characters, a woman in her 40s and a woman in her 60s. And it was a real challenge and I loved it. So I I I hope people see in our in our final 1530 seconds here. I'm curious. And without giving too much away, the original Matlock wore the seersucker suit. Yes, yes. Well, we see you in seersucker. Well, you just have to tune in. Oh, that's how you get 13 million. We tune in this Thursday night. I'll give you that hint. I'll say this. You are not and have never been invisible to us. We see you and thank you. Thank you so much. We see you, Kathy, so much, mate. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Kathy Bates, stick around. We've had so much more to talk to her about in our third hour of CBS mornings. Kathy is coming back. We're going to get 13 and a half million viewers for that hour. Yes, yes, yeah. And a new episode of Matlock airs this Thursday at 98 Central here on CBS and streaming on Paramount Plus. We are proud of that. Must feel good. What a show. It must feel good to go to work and say I really like this job and I can't wait. And people really like you and people really like. When do we hear about season 2? Yeah, Season 2. Come on, CBS Paramount. That'll do it.
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